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posted by [personal profile] sami at 10:44am on 10/07/2009
Correct me if I'm wrong - internal EU politics aren't really something that gets the most attention in the world Down Under - but I thought the reason the EU weren't letting Turkey in yet was primarily human rights issues.

That's a point on which I'm hoping the EU stands strong, because in theory, the EU has the potential to be the best world power yet. While the EU has strong standards for admission in areas like human rights, but EU membership is strongly beneficial to member nations, the EU can be a force for good in the world even while it's beset by internal bickering and so on. (Which, I gahter, it is, which is totally not surprising given the long history of mutual hatreds in Europe. I for one am totally on side with that being expressed in bickering rather than warfare, however.)

I have a vague dream of the EU gradually expanding, gradually improving itself, and then one day becoming the Global Union.
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posted by [personal profile] mmoa_writes at 03:49pm on 11/07/2009
Yes, for the most part it's up to Turkey to clean itself up BUT, there is a great deal of EU skepticism in the UK, and the growing right-wing trend means that a lot of the time, human rights are never mentioned as as reason for keeping Turkey out for the time being. Rather, it's guff about religion and cultural differences (because countries like France have so much in common with Romania or Poland, for example), the usual xenophobic, islamophobic mildly racist claptrap.

And it's nice to see someone else who dreams alike! Maybe if other countries start dealing more closely with the EU rather than the UK as a separate entity, our government will wake up a bit and do the right thing...

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